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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Arial'>Hi,<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Arial'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face=Arial><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>I&#8217;m interested in getting a Win64 version of
MLton. Now the 64 bits port for Linux (and also other targets as I could read
some messages about it on the mailing list) is getting stable, I guess it should
not be too complex to update the MinGW <st1:place w:st="on"><st1:PlaceType
 w:st="on">port</st1:PlaceType> of <st1:PlaceName w:st="on">MLton</st1:PlaceName></st1:place>
for Win64.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face=Arial><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face=Arial><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>Unfortunately, MinGW is not yet available for Win64. The
gcc port is definitely not stable (the binutils seem to run fine) and the MinGW
headers and libraries are still experimental.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face=Arial><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face=Arial><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>The fact we need MinGW to use MLton on Windows seems
to be an obstacle in terms of portability and the fact it does not require it
anymore would make life (at least mine ;-)) easier.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face=Arial><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face=Arial><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>Has anyone ever tried to build a version of MLton that
would use the Microsoft tools instead of gcc and gas ?<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face=Arial><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face=Arial><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>I&#8217;ve personally tried to evaluate the amount of
work that would be needed by doing the following :<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:36.0pt;text-indent:-18.0pt;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo1'><![if !supportLists]><font
size=2 face=Arial><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'><span
style='mso-list:Ignore'>-<font size=1 face="Times New Roman"><span
style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;
</span></font></span></span></font><![endif]><font size=2 face=Arial><span
lang=EN-GB style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>port the GNU MP library
in order to build it using the Microsoft C compiler<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:36.0pt;text-indent:-18.0pt;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo1'><![if !supportLists]><font
size=2 face=Arial><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'><span
style='mso-list:Ignore'>-<font size=1 face="Times New Roman"><span
style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;
</span></font></span></span></font><![endif]><font size=2 face=Arial><span
lang=EN-GB style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>port the MLton runtime to
build it using the Microsoft C compiler :<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:72.0pt;text-indent:-18.0pt;mso-list:l0 level2 lfo1'><![if !supportLists]><font
size=2 face="Courier New"><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:
"Courier New"'><span style='mso-list:Ignore'>o<font size=1
face="Times New Roman"><span style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;
</span></font></span></span></font><![endif]><font size=2 face=Arial><span
lang=EN-GB style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>update the Makefile<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:72.0pt;text-indent:-18.0pt;mso-list:l0 level2 lfo1'><![if !supportLists]><font
size=2 face="Courier New"><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:
"Courier New"'><span style='mso-list:Ignore'>o<font size=1
face="Times New Roman"><span style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;
</span></font></span></span></font><![endif]><font size=2 face=Arial><span
lang=EN-GB style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>use the macro _<i><span
style='font-style:italic'>MSC</span></i>_VER to identify the target instead of other
macros such as __MINGW32__ or __i386__<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:72.0pt;text-indent:-18.0pt;mso-list:l0 level2 lfo1'><![if !supportLists]><font
size=2 face="Courier New"><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:
"Courier New"'><span style='mso-list:Ignore'>o<font size=1
face="Times New Roman"><span style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;
</span></font></span></span></font><![endif]><font size=2 face=Arial><span
lang=EN-GB style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>convert the MLton runtime
C code to C89 (it is written in C99 which leads to a number of minor issues)<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:72.0pt;text-indent:-18.0pt;mso-list:l0 level2 lfo1'><![if !supportLists]><font
size=2 face="Courier New"><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:
"Courier New"'><span style='mso-list:Ignore'>o<font size=1
face="Times New Roman"><span style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;
</span></font></span></span></font><![endif]><font size=2 face=Arial><span
lang=EN-GB style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>include the code for some
MinGW specific extensions in the MLton runtime (opendir/readdir/closedir/rint
etc &#8230;)<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:72.0pt;text-indent:-18.0pt;mso-list:l0 level2 lfo1'><![if !supportLists]><font
size=2 face="Courier New"><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:
"Courier New"'><span style='mso-list:Ignore'>o<font size=1
face="Times New Roman"><span style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;
</span></font></span></span></font><![endif]><font size=2 face=Arial><span
lang=EN-GB style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>take into account the
fact that the CRT functions which are equivalent to some LIBC functions are
prefixed with an &#8216;_&#8217; <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:36.0pt;text-indent:-18.0pt;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo1'><![if !supportLists]><font
size=2 face=Arial><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'><span
style='mso-list:Ignore'>-<font size=1 face="Times New Roman"><span
style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;
</span></font></span></span></font><![endif]><font size=2 face=Arial><span
lang=EN-GB style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>update the basis library
in order to add a &#8220;Win32&#8221; OS (quite similar to the &#8220;MinGW&#8221;
OS)<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:36.0pt;text-indent:-18.0pt;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo1'><![if !supportLists]><font
size=2 face=Arial><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'><span
style='mso-list:Ignore'>-<font size=1 face="Times New Roman"><span
style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;
</span></font></span></span></font><![endif]><font size=2 face=Arial><span
lang=EN-GB style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>write a perl script that
fixes the C code MLton generates in order to build it using the Microsoft C
compiler :<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:72.0pt;text-indent:-18.0pt;mso-list:l0 level2 lfo1'><![if !supportLists]><font
size=2 face="Courier New"><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:
"Courier New"'><span style='mso-list:Ignore'>o<font size=1
face="Times New Roman"><span style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;
</span></font></span></span></font><![endif]><font size=2 face=Arial><span
lang=EN-GB style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>the generated C code may
define some empty arrays which are not accepted by the Microsoft compiler<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:72.0pt;text-indent:-18.0pt;mso-list:l0 level2 lfo1'><![if !supportLists]><font
size=2 face="Courier New"><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:
"Courier New"'><span style='mso-list:Ignore'>o<font size=1
face="Times New Roman"><span style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;
</span></font></span></span></font><![endif]><font size=2 face=Arial><span
lang=EN-GB style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>some generated strings can
be too big to be compiled using the Microsoft compiler<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:36.0pt;text-indent:-18.0pt;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo1'><![if !supportLists]><font
size=2 face=Arial><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'><span
style='mso-list:Ignore'>-<font size=1 face="Times New Roman"><span
style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;
</span></font></span></span></font><![endif]><font size=2 face=Arial><span
lang=EN-GB style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>write a perl script that
converts the assembly code MLton generates in order to build it using the
Microsoft assembler<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face=Arial><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face=Arial><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>Using all this stuff and the files MLton produces
when we use the &#8220;&#8211;stop g&#8221; option, I could build some test binaries.
Well, It is a bit complex but as I mentioned above, my goal is not yet to port
MLton but to evaluate the amount of work that is needed to do so.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face=Arial><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face=Arial><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>Unfortunately, the binaries I get by doing this
always crash at the beginning of the execution.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face=Arial><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face=Arial><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>As I&#8217;m not really an expert in using the Microsoft
assembler, I tried to simplify this a bit by skipping the assembly code
conversion script and using the GNU assembler anyway (but still compile the
runtime and link using the Microsoft tools).<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face=Arial><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face=Arial><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>This time, I could get some binaries (even some big
ones) that run pretty fine.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face=Arial><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face=Arial><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>Now, I&#8217;m a stuck because I really don&#8217;t
know how to solve the remaining issues so, I would really appreciate your
comments and suggestions.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face=Arial><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face=Arial><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>Best regards<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face=Arial><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face=Arial><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>Nicolas Bertolotti<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

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